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« Reply #45 on: October 18, 2010, 07:43:47 PM »
I wuz addressing your sarcasm

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« Reply #46 on: October 18, 2010, 09:40:19 PM »
So obviously every video i posted is not a good source for some of you. Look up Dr. Robert Melamede the guy in the video i posted again. but wait you don't trust him lol

Do you know who Jack Herer is? If you don't.... nothing I'm talking about in this thread you have 1 damn clue about so GTFO :)

Cmon, listen to what Soma from somaseeds tells us. Marc Emery, Rick  Simpson, watch these video's conveniently on youtube  http://www.youtube.com/user/chrychek

This is a great collection to
http://www.youtube.com/user/EssiacHempLaetrile

Google "pubmed"
Enter "Cannabinoids Cancer"

None of this matters to you?

Honestly you can't argue this and if you do, you ultimately end up in  your own ignorant bliss. Which I'm afraid cannabis is your bliss  molecule(anandamide). You don't realize what cannabis is, if you don't  know it can cure cancer. So I suggest reading a few books, Emperor wears  no clothes By: Jack Herer is one of them. The best way is to go out of  your way to find a person who's cured them self or is curing themselves  with the holy oil already.

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Anywho back to the first post: hemp oil doesn't cure cancer, there are 8 essential aminos for humans, and that it's from an organic source doesn't matter either as to the quality of the amino profile.

Anybody reading his bullshit, don't let his utter ignorance deter you any longer. It won't for me, it sickens me.

Hemp seeds contain ALL the essential amino acids, you can't find me another seed that does that. Maybe this seed of an discussion sprouted you your own answer.

HEMP FLOWER OIL CURES CANCER!!!

not

HEMP SEED OIL (but it does contain all essential fatty and amino acids, best food source in the world if you ask me. We could feed every soul with it)
fuck off lol

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« Reply #47 on: October 18, 2010, 10:36:48 PM »
yo heady have you actually tried hemp flower oil for various ailments you have had?  did it actually cure you?  any chance of placebo?

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« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2010, 11:58:17 PM »
I can't help but think people are confusing the intentions with the real, ground-level effects when it comes to prevention.

There's a laundry list of problems with putting money into "prevention" models--the primary being just that there's ridiculously steep diminishing returns on investment (much higher than research) if there is any voluntary part of the prevention measures. If not, you're just outlawing substances and chemicals which I guess could work to the extent that you want to attempt to regulate more.

Of course, what I mean by voluntary is what you would expect. People can choose not to do it. I think there's very few people who think asbestos is good.. but there's also people who are too apathetic to check for it when buying a property or item. I don't think anyone doubts the potential issues with heavily processed foods--I don't think there has ever been a single good piece of news about them beyond sheer volume, but people still consume such foods en masse. So what volume of money from cancer research going to cancer "prevention" would change the dynamics at all? As far as I can tell, we can't convince some people that the earth is more than 10,000 years old, much less influence their ability to make sound judgements about what they do to themselves.


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@heady, you're absolutely correct, you can't argue with someone who is completely unreasonable and incoherent. You've learned the secret of all theistic religions! Good work.

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« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2010, 12:36:54 AM »
I use it for meditation and what it was mostly used for before 1937 and 12000+ years before that, stomach and headache medicine. It's LD50 for humans is about 1500 pounds, ummm yeah so no medical risk. Which is a great thing, it's funny that the feds ect. want to put us in jail for promoting our own health, and it saddens me and sickens me that we live with this.

It's not about me, it's about healing our loved ones by them ingesting hemp flower oil, NOT smoking. For lung cancer patients they need to vaporize as well as eat the medicine. There are more direct ways THC (and other cannabinoids) can interact or eat the cancer cells directly with an injection. This is what so many need but our war on drugs is not allowing it. If any of you ever have cancer or want to cure your loved ones, get into growing it and making the oil yourself. Cancer is curable!

As for this prevention talk, i do believe that prevention is the best medicine. Nothing on this earth helps us more in prevention than good water, good cannabis, and good food.

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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2010, 09:53:11 AM »
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Oh wow my bad I didn't realize that a potential new method for killing cancers was completely irrelevant to cancer research!

I wasn't being sarcastic at all.


@heady:

Another seed? Uhm, perhaps not a seed, but "contains all essential aminos" is another word for the catch phrase "complete protein." These are not uncommon. How about the soybean? How about quinoa? spirulina? buckwheat? amaranth? These are *all* complete proteins, meaning that they contain the 8 (not 10) essential aminos. And this means nothing to your body. You could never consume a "complete" protein and be just fine, doing so means nothing. Complementary proteins ring a bell? Nutrition 101.

I really wonder where people like you come from and what's wrong with them. Are you incredibly stupid, mentally ill, or who knows what else?

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« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2010, 11:24:51 PM »
hahah well go start a nutrition thread, I'm sorry you don't agree with  me that hemp flower oil cures cancer, any and all cancers.

Keep wondering (and 5 year old name calling). You haven't got the slightest idea what your talking about lmao

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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2010, 10:17:36 AM »
You haven't a clue what amino acids are, what essential aminos are, what proteins are, how proteins work, are formed, synthesized, broken down, anything. Yet you'll go on at length about their benefits, then spout some idiotic ignoramus bullcrap about a similar compound magically curing cancer, and then tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I doubt you know what cancer even is, I've seen no indication that you do.

I still haven't name called. It's perfectly reasonable for me to wonder what's wrong with you. If the only way your mind could be changed would be your contracting cancer and dying, this is a really pointless discussion.

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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2010, 05:45:58 PM »
Yeah your discussion is pointless GJ!

THE FUCKING SEEDS OILS DON'T CURE CANCER!

The actual flower has cannabinoids 65 known... yeah 65!!!!!!!! That you don't know shit about obviously lmao THC is the famous one, idk why you think i'm talking about fatty acids or some shit lmao. Leave it to a mindless idiot you are to conjure that one up

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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2010, 06:13:09 PM »
Yea I was confused why you nitpicked on one of the positive aspects.. amino aspects.. and attributed them to cancer curing...

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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2010, 06:49:02 PM »
Because parrots have no idea what they're talking about, and he's a parrot. He has no idea what the word cancer actually covers, and what the word cure means, which is pretty obvious if you do any research into cannabinoids and cancer. Cancer is a broad definition of many many many diseases with a similar quality to which I don't think anyone with ANY qualifications in the field would attribute one treatment methodology to. This is probably the dumbest thread ever posted in the serious discussion, which is kind of amazing considering chaospunk used to post his tinfoil hat BS here. He pretty much calls anyone who disagrees with him ignorant, apparently brings up information that is entirely irrelevant and gets mad when people refute it, and has yet to address anything my original posts about the complexity/issues with the argument that any one source could simply cure cancer. We are pretty childish though I guess, having questions and concerns about his cure for cancer which is so absolute that all other research or treatment should be stopped.

PS, :rofl at jack herer. I read that book a while ago, it's a good laugh if you really like him you should go check out the timecube guy for the truth about our planet and time.

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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2010, 07:29:01 PM »
Lol I didn't really mean to gear my statement towards heady but I guess it applies to him too.  I was writing more to anti saying attacking the statement that amino acids are found in hemp flower and for whatever reason attributing amino acids to cancer cure really isn't a good way to refute it... completely ignores all the effects of cannabinoids discussed.

but at the same time there really hasn't been that much evidence presented that has shown hemp flower to be the absolute cure for many diseases including cancer (besides a few youtube videos).  Hell Si is the only person that has actually contributed credible information (peer-reviewed journals) that is directly relevant to the topic.  though all of the other chatter is pretty useful in bringing additional context

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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2010, 03:28:01 AM »
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Lol I didn't really mean to gear my statement towards heady but I guess it applies to him too.  I was writing more to anti saying attacking the statement that amino acids are found in hemp flower and for whatever reason attributing amino acids to cancer cure really isn't a good way to refute it... completely ignores all the effects of cannabinoids discussed.

Impulse is the only one reading what i wrote, hilarious anti just brings up seed oils lmao

@HD- idk what you're trying to get at. I'm not expert when it comes to micromatic phycololigy doctrinationalizm or whatever HD specializes at, all I'm saying is that when you make the beautiful hemp flower into a potent oil NO form of cancer can exist.(When it's too late, I'm afraid it's too late unless we start getting pure forms of cannabinoids and really start putting money into treatment)(Not just raising money for awareness BS) Don't let anyone tell you different, but of course you need to see it to believe it, and then you might sense my passion.

You guys should go out and find the ground breaking evidence for yourself, obviously I can't help you, I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IF YOU BELIEVE ME.


And laughing at Jack Herer, wow man I've never seen anything more ignorant. I know he was a big goofball but, he spent tons of time in jail to bring us the true facts, in all their hard to take glory. Shame on you HD

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« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2010, 04:52:35 AM »
It's really not so much that I don't think the oil or cannabinoids in general don't do something in terms of cancer--I just really disagree with the approach you used to put this message out. Jack Herer was fundamentally a good advocate for his cause, but I feel like his message touched too much on the extremes and was too passion-driven to reach a wider audience. I enjoyed reading The Emperor Wears No Clothes, but I also feel like it embodies the best and worst parts of cannabism activism in general.

In many ways, Jack Herer is entirely correct, but when you're advocating something, being correct means nothing if you can't convert people to your cause by appealing to them. The vision of a hemp-centric world wasn't necessarily appealing to people in 1985 when the book was released, and it really still isn't today aside from people within that same advocacy group. The back of my copy talks about the prospect of using cannabis in every facet of life in an attempt to help offset the greenhouse effect. While this is a noble cause, there's probably not gonna be many people writing to their congressman about how they want it legalized so they can make their own hut out of it because of the book, and that's really the part I find funny. Hemp/Cannabis at a basic level is really a product that can sell itself on it's merits--why take it to an extreme? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I would concede that cannabinoids have been shown to possibly help in preventing (some forms of) cancer, and the oil you mentioned might even be the best way to achieve this. However, telling people it is a cure is really just going to disappoint them in the long run. Hemp really has some wonderful properties and can do some pretty awesome things for what it is--but selling it as a miracle will really just make people either not believe you or not care.

I've actually wanted cannabis legalized from a young age--not because someone told me it was the best thing ever and I believed them, but because whether it is or isn't, it has the potential to help people. It's a really practical resource at the most basic level. You know, telling people that it can make incredibly cost effective textiles, plastics, fuel and many other goods is frankly a better message than saying it cures cancer, even if it magically could.

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« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2010, 09:56:24 AM »
fuck people nowadays, it's a result of un-just laws, what happens when  you put bullshit in the blender? you get mixed bullshit. I'm amazed our  american society could do such harm to something so harmless, are you  really afraid of psychoactive drugs? Cannabinoids are in BREAST MILK.

Cops keep killing children and "Dealers" keep shooting other children(cops), because  this match is a downward spiral. I bet we lost generations of amazing  minds to this poisonous hate fueled society. It's sickening
(I do like how you dabble the mind, keep spewing up your knowledge or  opinion because maybe that's the only thing we really leave, intellect.)

You don't believe me that premo not chemo... well then I'm sorry you can't stretch that mushy brain of yours.

You keep not believing while kids/elders wither and die because of our current system of surgery, poison and radiation therapy.



 

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